Incentivising travel.

[Tintomara]

Hmm, interesting. I agree that travel isn't really that necessary now. Once you find a good home with enough targets, you can just stay there. So I like your ideas. Some questions, though:
If you can restock the clan shop with just a button click, doesn't that mean that you do have as much of each item as you could possibly need, as long as the people with the power to push the button are around? Or is there some cost associated with this? Oh, nvm, I just realised that the clan buys the individual items, probably grouped together in a set number of items! (Is that how you intended it?)

Also, where would the money for these purchases come from? If it would be like today, with the shop till, that would mean that you'd have a hard time getting started... Or could clan members "bank" their gold into some form of clan bank instead?

Third, would only clan members be allowed to buy from the shop, or could you allow others to buy from it, too? If so, I'd suggest different permission levels like
- clan members only
- clan members + allies
- all non-enemies
- everyone

(I realise that the "all non-enemies would just allow people in enemy clans to buy your stuff anyway, all they'd have to do is have one member leave the clan and buy the stuff, but I'll ignore that. Maybe there can be some benefit tied to how long you have been in the clan (and if you leave that is reset to 0, so you can't count the old time if you just leave for a while), or a limitation on how many times you can join the same clan)

If people outside the clan were allowed to buy things, I'd like to see the possibility to set different prices for each of the categories above.

Last a comment about the HQs. Even if I agree that not everyone should be able to make their HQ in the same place, there would have to be some possibility to have more than one clan have it in the same town, since there would otherwise be a risk that we'd run out of towns...

[Tintomara]

You probably did that on purpose... *glares suspiciously at secon*

[Jay alAvid]

Great idea with the SHOP permission system; I like the 'non-enemy' option as well. I think it would be great to annoy the enemy by requiring them to 'leave' the clan to purchase - lol!

[Smasho Smashoria]

Clan Totally Awesome Clan Name has an excellent lawyer on retainer if you'd like to take legal action, Secon. Say the word.

Of course, by "lawyer", I mean "pony", and by "take action" I mean "take a ride", but the offer still stands.

[Tintomara]

For starters, it's libel, not lible... You'll need to spell it right, or you won't have a case
And secondly, no, it's not! I said probably, which means I walk free

[Smasho Smashoria]

I'm still offering that pony ride, though.

[Tintomara]

I've always wanted a pony! Can I have it?

[Smasho Smashoria]

You can ride it. Though we at Totally Awesome Clan Name may seem stupid, and may in fact be stupid, giving things away is not in our nature.

[Hugh Longshanks]

Again.
(That was mean, I know, and I'm sorry!)

Great idea, Tinto. And better than the rather vague suggestions I had made about Shops in the past....

[Tintomara]

No, secon, don't delete your suggestions! Put this one back in! It was a good one! And my post looks really stupid now...

[Tintomara]

Thank you

[caldar]

i like the idea of being able to set a price, especially combined with the function to be able to restrict acces for allies/non allies etc.

as a clanmember controlling a town i want a discount on my shop, and i'd want enemies to pay triple prices for the pretty stuff. That way it'll become more interesting to upgrade the shop, i think.

on the extra XP's.

I'd think the most realistic thing is to give one a defense/offensive advantage in a town you control, as you can entrench yourself behind your keep wall and keep poring boiling oil on your enemies....

The extra XP you should get when you venture out to an enemy controlled town as it is more risky and therefore should be more rewarding if you score wins there....

that was my 2-cents for the moment. (how to implement these sort of things i don't know, i'll leave that up to the Creator )

[caldar]

that's true enough, like i said, i don't think about the how to implement things

[Tintomara]

Hmm, you could still have the possibility to have a different price (or permission) for your own clan members compared to everyone else, since you can control who you let join your clan. If you really care about making life harder for your enemies, you'll set your clan membership to invite only, and be really strict about who you invite. This would possibly work, but with less control on your own side, if you could expand it to allies. If you let them have the same privileges as your own clan members, and don't want anyone not really belonging to that clan, but to an enemy clan to benefit, you'd have to trust your ally to keep them out. If you don't trust them, don't give them the same price/permission as your own clan members get.

[Tim]

Good suggestions, as well as good catches for flaws in the proposed ideas and ways around them. This is why I like this board: saves me the trouble of thinking up ideas and their flaws. ;D

One of the reasons I didn't try to implement price setting for people is as it was said: people could just buy with an alt or temporarily leave their clan to buy it. These are common loophole in things, which I feel will need addressed eventually, but that's another topic.

However, setting price for clan members, or even allies, is possible, as you do have some control over who these people are. The reason I chose not to add this (other than time constrants) was that money spent at the shop is how the shop is able to be upgraded. You could make all your items free, but you'd never be able to upgrade the shop. Along those lines, you could make all your items free (or at least pretty cheap), then turn around and sell them for profit. This would open up a way for creating infinite gold. So even if I do add this in, there will have to be a limit on how much you can effect the price.