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Post by Tim on Dec 6, 2009 4:17:37 GMT -6
next november !?!?!?............ aurggggh !!! Hey, it's just a year. That's pretty quick turnaround between any books, let alone books this size. How long did we have to wait between KoD and TGS...? 
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Post by Nethran on Jan 18, 2010 22:27:28 GMT -6
I always like to discuss.  So I shall revive a month-and-a-half deceased thread.  The book was great, I thought. Rand did seem different, but so were his mental circumstances, so I'm ok with it. Mat was more different than I thought his story should make him, but he's in new hands that might see him a different way, so I'm ok with it as long as the core of him doesn't change. Perrin was my favorite character in book 4, and I still liked him until this book. :\ Kinda mopey. I stopped liking Rand around book 6-7. His anger problems and general incivility made him hard to like in my opinion. Hopefully, via the new developments, he becomes a little easier to take. Egwene I always liked. Nynaeve has always been a little...annoying, but she made up for it in the end of Knife of Dreams. The whole Golden Crane part was one of my favorites in the series. Wish that we could have seen more of the others in this, but there are so many I guess it would have been hard to do justice to the main stories if it was written differently.
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Post by alSeen on Jan 18, 2010 23:32:47 GMT -6
wait u dont like rand because his ANGER ISSUES!!!!!!   !!!!!!! thats what makes him cool! he HAS to be hard and cold to be strong enough to sacrifice anyone to save the world! so i just have to say....HOW DARE YOU!?! (just kidding.lol most people dont like rand, for some reason i cant imagine, but as u may have guessed, rand is my favorite character. but no hard feelings  )
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Post by Nethran on Jan 18, 2010 23:48:25 GMT -6
I like the classic nice-guy heroes. They have some doubts and hard times in their stories, but in the end they do their best to stay good. Like Luke Skywalker and his ilk. Rand went almost beyond anger to me. He thought it was necessary to be hard, but his anger was only a byproduct of that hardness, and he refused to see how his hardness was affecting him or others; to see what the others around him were seeing. I think that it makes him somewhat unique as far as heroes go, which is always good, but he was my favorite character until book 4(when Perrin in Emond's Field happened, which is my favorite part of the series) because he is still kind. I liked him then, and I didn't like him changing. But the outlook, like I said before, is promising. I hope he returns to something closer to his pre-Psycho self, lol.
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Post by alSeen on Jan 19, 2010 17:11:21 GMT -6
hey luke skywalker went evil at one point! (in the books, dont ask me where cuz ive havent read it but it was referenced in other books ive read in the series) and for me, i dont really like heros that are just good. i know i know they get doubts, maybe even turn away from what they need to do but rand is just so dark! i guess i just love anti-heros. conan, rand, locke lamora (and thank u whoever recommanded that book to me, it was amazing) roland (from the dark tower series) and the list goes on. oh and dont tell me u didnt like the part where whenever rand was in the room there was a darkness in there, that was just TOO cool 
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Post by devindrangdorak on Feb 2, 2010 9:26:34 GMT -6
Agreed, you got the feeling when this series started that Rand was going to have a dark side to him. It was something that had to happen to get to where we are now. When he eventually turned back to the light side, I think that he will be able to look back on what he was becoming and stay clear away from that side of himself. Good example of that, Darth Vader.
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Post by crow on Feb 2, 2010 22:19:27 GMT -6
Dark tower was a bad ass series and i completely agree. I always liked rand the best the Madness creeping in on him growing ever stronger was awsome, it added a twist to your basic "good vs evil" story line. I probably would not even like the series if that essential element was taken away. He starting becoming this way to protect his friends and loved ones he just took it too far all still in the hopes of saving people so he still is your "good guy" just with an awsome darker side
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Post by alSeen on Feb 2, 2010 23:19:27 GMT -6
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES!!!! YA!  anyway, i think i would still like the series if rand wasnt slightly evil, just not as much. it adds so much to WoT that classic good vs evil doesnt have. GO ANTI-HEROS! 
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