Class discussion

[aegis]

This topic is to discuss about class balancement.

What class you think are the strongest, and what are the weakest?



My thoughts:



Wolfbrother:
One of the most powerfull, ad used a lot for this, mainly couse it combines Speed (the most usefull stat, in my opinion), with a lot of damage, without flaws.

Deathguard:
Same as before, but a little better couse wound is less powerfull then speed and the class is Seanchan only. Should be "No wolfbrother" too, to avoid combos (and couse they don't fit thematically).

Aes Sedai:
Quite good, and more powerfull then ashaman, couse it combines stun with wound (for letal speed reducion combo), while asha'man has only taint as a good stat (and not strong like that, anyway).

Wise One/Chief:
Generally underpowered and never seen used so far. Maybe couse they are so defensive oriented...

Warder:
Generally good, but his Heavier then Mountain skill seems odd. Both couse I don't see the Warders do a lot of damage taking damage themselves thematically, and both couse probably the bonus (even if strong) is not worth the malus. Maybe removing the 2% damage (or putting 1% instead) and remove the malus could work.

Luck based classes:
Luck is a fun stat for gaining money, but having nothing to do with the duel himself, I think it is a bit underpowered (also couse money can be done easily with professions).



In general, I think that classes used too often should be slightly nerfed, while classes never used should be slightly buffed.
What you think about it?

[Tim]

Sept 7, 2011 12:15:22 GMT -6 aegis said:

In general, I think that classes used too often should be slightly nerfed, while classes never used should be slightly buffed.
What you think about it?

I mostly agree with that statement. I'd say classes that are used too often because they are too powerful should be slightly nerfed, while classes that are never used because they are too weak should be slightly buffed.

Some people pick their classes simply because they want their char to be an Asha'man/Wolfbro/etc. I for one almost always end up with a Chief...

I do agree that the balance isn't quite there yet, but I hope it's getting better.

I am interested in seeing what you guys think though.

[Jenlyn]

Yeah, Jenlyn is always going to choose Aes Sedai for that reason, even if Aes Sedai gets nerfed and starts to suck. She'll choose it because that is what she is; I created her to be an Aes Sedai, 5 years ago before we even had the class. She is lucky enough that Aes Sedai is a competitive path in this game. If there are other paths that suck and make it less fun for someone to play a favored character, then that should definitely be addressed. Prince Yoda should be a chief, and there should not be a competitive penalty for that.

[aegis]

Yes, I like to chose my classes thematically too, in fact, of all my alts, only one will be probably optimized, while all others will have their class chosed thematically.

Still, I think that some classes are not selected ONLY for they flavour.
Wolfbrother is cool, but no more then Aes Sedai or others, and still I see A LOT of them (Allmost all who can take it).


As an example, this is how I think it should rebalanced (changes in red):


Original:

Wolfbrother ( class icon: Red Wolf )
non-Aiel, non-Ogier, non-channeler, non-Atha'an Miere only
--Eyes of the Wolf: +2x% damage, +x accuracy(A)
-The Beast Within: +2x~4x damage (P)
--One with the Pack: +x-2x damage, +x% health gain, +x/3 speed (A)


New:

Wolfbrother ( class icon: Red Wolf )
non-Aiel, non-Ogier, non-channeler, non-Seanchan, non-Atha'an Miere only
--Eyes of the Wolf: +1x% damage, +x accuracy(A)
-The Beast Within: +2x~4x damage (P)
--One with the Pack: +1x% damage, +x% health gain, +x/3 speed (A)


Al it loses is a 1-2 damage and got his 2% damage split over 2 skills instead of 1 (and can't be chosen by Seanchan Deathguards).

As alternative...

New 2:


New:

Wolfbrother ( class icon: Red Wolf )
non-Aiel, non-Ogier, non-channeler, non-Seanchan, non-Atha'an Miere only
--Eyes of the Wolf: +1x-2x damage, +x accuracy(A)
-The Beast Within: +2x~4x damage (P)
--One with the Pack: +1x% damage, +x% health gain, +x/3 speed (A)

Same as before, but it retains the 1-2 damage (switched in place) and loses an 1% damage.