Post by Tim on Jul 16, 2014 10:23:36 GMT -6
Serashada Eraindi <Seconds ago>: Ha! What help? And trust me, i know that the SL isnt likely to fight with me against all your armies, they really are a light based clan.
The Creator <Seconds ago>: I really want to be able to read and respond to all this, but at work and have a meeting in 10 minutes. The way things are flowing, half of it will probably be lost by the time I can read it.
Jenlyn Maconar <A minute ago>: That would be fine. I dont' find the idea of serving you particularly appealing
Jenlyn Maconar <2 minutes ago>: They're just going to screw us until the end, then turn on you and try to pull it off for the light with our help
Serashada Eraindi <2 minutes ago>: No, i frankly dont want you. Or any of you. I chose shadow because the shadow wasnt represented well on the field. If you all came to the Shadows tomorrow i would go light.
Jenlyn Maconar <2 minutes ago>: The LB is a ways off yet
Jenlyn Maconar <2 minutes ago>: This isnt' the end
Serashada Eraindi <3 minutes ago>: This isnt a game where neutral is an option in the end. It may have been different in the past, but its not now.
Jenlyn Maconar <5 minutes ago>: but cheer up. You get me next round, lucky you
Jenlyn Maconar <6 minutes ago>: no, I expect them to be neutral, same as we were
Serashada Eraindi <6 minutes ago>: You know, i will be fine with that. I wont blame everything on everyone else when it happens.
Jenlyn Maconar <6 minutes ago>: if we all quit, it just leaves sl, and even with nvs, you are screwed
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: because without ec or nvs or sl, you really don't have a chance so long as the light is united
Belmin Tull <7 minutes ago>: reiterating ... justifications are null and void, because people are LEAVING
Serashada Eraindi <7 minutes ago>: Ok so let me put it this way then. You sided with their biggest enemy, other than me, and expected them to walk casually by and help you?
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: you will lose, and then you can be pouty
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: and no one else sides with you
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: and when we leave
Jenlyn Maconar <8 minutes ago>: and it isn't your issue. Its not your clan or your longstanding alliance
Jenlyn Maconar <8 minutes ago>: We broke no treaty. You do not know the mechanics of what happened
Jenlyn Maconar <9 minutes ago>: else we would have implemented a different startegy form teh start
Jenlyn Maconar <9 minutes ago>: Perhaps we should have perceived that SL would behave this way, but I did not believe it
Serashada Eraindi <9 minutes ago>: or just an enemy general.
Jenlyn Maconar <9 minutes ago>: And on top of that, we are hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded
Serashada Eraindi <9 minutes ago>: And Ok say this is real life for a sec and you BREAK a treaty that has stood for a long time to fight with A GENERAL OF THE SHADOWS in the previous year, You thing there would be no repercussions?
Jenlyn Maconar <10 minutes ago>: We get screwed no matter how we try to use the game mechanics
Jenlyn Maconar <10 minutes ago>: They are pointless battles
Jenlyn Maconar <11 minutes ago>: to take a couple of towns that were far away from them and of no concern to them. It is a puffed up provocation
Serashada Eraindi <11 minutes ago>: The problem is that no one wants to try and fight because they see them as "pointless battles." Thats crap. Dont put your pouty crap off on someone else
Jenlyn Maconar <11 minutes ago>: While we have done nothing to oppose them. We took nothing from them, yet they are hurting us because we had hte audacity
Shylah Sedai <11 minutes ago>: It's the fact that PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE OF IT
Serashada Eraindi <12 minutes ago>: The people who quit, either have their reasons that are personal, or are just throwing a tantrum becuase they see this as a pointless age. The SL isnt the problem,
Jenlyn Maconar <12 minutes ago>: SL is helping you because they're mad that we're friends with EC this round.
Shylah Sedai <12 minutes ago>: Because it was evenly matched last round. this age we have people leaving because it's 4 large clans fighting against 2 clans. It's not the world problem
Jenlyn Maconar <12 minutes ago>: EC didn't know that the shadow would be a viable opponent, so they fought for it for the good of the game
Jenlyn Maconar <13 minutes ago>: to let people I thought were my friends run me off by being dicks
Jenlyn Maconar <13 minutes ago>: I'll just retire Jenlyn and join the Shadow until they squeeze the fun out of that too, but I have too much invested in it
Serashada Eraindi <13 minutes ago>: So i love how it is the SL that is the root of all evil. Last year the EC fought for the Shadow, yet i didnt see them being blamed for all the worlds problems.
Jenlyn Maconar <14 minutes ago>: and he's implemented a bunch of my own suggestions, like clan battles, estates, and an ending each round.
Jenlyn Maconar <14 minutes ago>: You know what? Screw that. I too have sat through round after round of this game while it slowly evolved into something fun
Jenlyn Maconar <16 minutes ago>: And I can catch up on my reading and check in periodically to see if they've finally wandered off
Jenlyn Maconar <16 minutes ago>: So hopefully it will eventually be SL against the Shadow, the way they want it, and they can have fun.
Jenlyn Maconar <17 minutes ago>: and the game might have a chance. Otherwise, the light will always be split, and the shadow will always win, and new players will quit because it's pointless
Jenlyn Maconar <18 minutes ago>: But I don't see the point in fighting both the shadow and the light. If I leave, they can go back to fighting the shadow
Jenlyn Maconar <19 minutes ago>: has begun to expand. I guess that kills their fun or something.
Jenlyn Maconar <20 minutes ago>: I'm not sure it's worth the energy. It only feeds their ego to oppose them. It's too bad, because the game is poised to take off, and the player base
Jenlyn Maconar <22 minutes ago>: I see now how they really are. I see why so many players have quit, why clan after clan springs up just to oppose them
Jenlyn Maconar <23 minutes ago>: against hte world. Everybody always hatin on them because they're so good
Jenlyn Maconar <23 minutes ago>: Now they'll fill themselves up with self pity and righteous indignation and pretend they're the underdog
Jenlyn Maconar <24 minutes ago>: they are no strangers to it. They probably like it. It lets them be the big fish in the small pond
Jenlyn Maconar <25 minutes ago>: the glory of beating us with the Shadow to keep them company. They played an empty game before
Jenlyn Maconar <25 minutes ago>: Eventually, they'll be sucking their thumbs in the dark to the sound of crickets, but they can relive
Jenlyn Maconar <29 minutes ago>: They don't care as long as they can throw their raging butthurt tantrum over manufactured provocations
Belmin Tull <35 minutes ago>: RP aside, I think the Mother's point is that whatever justifications made have been voided by the fact that the player base has been adversely affected by decisions of people that should know better.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: Those of us that remain are standing strong, and we have tried to rally and fight back, but ... I fear the weight of numbers determined to see us broken are too great.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: Many of them folded under the weight of such odds
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: n impossible
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: You speak truly, Mother. The Children and the Band had our entire alliance outnumbered from the getgo. It was disheartening for many of the troops when King and Alcar decided to turn a tricky situatio
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: People just want to have fun and you guys have taken that away. That is what I care about and why I'm pissed
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I care about is that people are leaving this game because they know it's pointless to try and stand up to KR or Alcar. That is what I care about
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: And before I get accused of pitching a fit because of CBs, let me clarify that I don't mind that. What I care about is the obvious dislike for the WT and EC that is apparent to anyone with eyes. What
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I hope KR, Alcar, and Sera like playing with each other because that's pretty much all who will be coming back next age.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: Driven from their home here by a pitchfork wielding mob of insurmountable numbers, driven into flight, perhaps never to be seen again
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: They were good people, lost to the intrigues and petty politics over which they had neither interest nor control, and shall be missed.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I misspoke, Belmin. But the shadow should be congratulated on one thing- they have broken the game for people.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: It's also very sad to see how many players have just stopped playing. Seth is gone. Several have deleted because they're tired of the shadows games on the light.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: It wasn't the WT I saw suffering out on Almoth Plain, Mother. They were butchering good people in the name of the Shadow.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I am so looking forward to my vacation and leaving this childishness behind for a bit.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: It is also clear that because the WT chose to not ally with the SL this age they are throwing a fit and deciding to punish the Tower by allowing the shadow to pull their strings.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: What is sad to me is that KR and Alcar have proven that they will do whatever it takes to win, even if it means working with the shadow.
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: no thanks necessary, Aes Sedai, we of the Emerald Collective shall stand against the Shadow in all it's guises.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Thank you for your bravery for the people of Almoth Plain, this is a sad day.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Either way, his fall from the Light, be it by trickery, arrogance, envy, hatred, or even simple misguided foolishness is now public knowledge.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Or at least that is what we had assumed his arrogance had led him to. This latest atrocity though - perhaps you are correct, and he is actually the dupe of another, more sinister power.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Seats of old
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: I believe that you believe what you are saying, Master Tull, your words ring with truth. King has been playing all sides in recent times, sitting in his stronghold pulling strings like the Amerlin
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: mayhap he's possessed by demons, or under the spell of a black sister, who knows? Could be something less sinister even. Who can know the heart of another truly?
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: i'm no Saint, Aes Sedai, never claimed it to be so. But I saw what I saw, and I fought who I fought as he was handing children to shadowspawn.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: These are serious accusations, Master Tull ... King Richard has been an upstanding guardian of the Light for many many years. Your reputation is somewhat less glowing.
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: laughing that big laugh of his the whole time
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: I did try, Aes Sedai, and I wounded him good before he made his escape, but the damage was done ... women ... children ... the trollocs already had them when we arrived, with King standing there
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: You did nothing to prevent this evil Master Tull, that you witnessed with your own eye?
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: More like an entire town ... saw it with my own eyes, I was there
Rasina seitaarin <2 hours ago>: I heard a whisper on the street that good King Richard delivered a village full of people on Almoth Plain into Trolloc cookpots
Rasina seitaarin <2 hours ago>: Quick, grab a bucket and scrub it off before anyone sees!
Rasina seitaarin <2 hours ago>: Looks like someone scrawled the dragon fang on the SL guild hall overnight ... such vandalism, tsk tsk ... wonder what would have prompted such a thing
The Creator <Seconds ago>: I really want to be able to read and respond to all this, but at work and have a meeting in 10 minutes. The way things are flowing, half of it will probably be lost by the time I can read it.
Jenlyn Maconar <A minute ago>: That would be fine. I dont' find the idea of serving you particularly appealing
Jenlyn Maconar <2 minutes ago>: They're just going to screw us until the end, then turn on you and try to pull it off for the light with our help
Serashada Eraindi <2 minutes ago>: No, i frankly dont want you. Or any of you. I chose shadow because the shadow wasnt represented well on the field. If you all came to the Shadows tomorrow i would go light.
Jenlyn Maconar <2 minutes ago>: The LB is a ways off yet
Jenlyn Maconar <2 minutes ago>: This isnt' the end
Serashada Eraindi <3 minutes ago>: This isnt a game where neutral is an option in the end. It may have been different in the past, but its not now.
Jenlyn Maconar <5 minutes ago>: but cheer up. You get me next round, lucky you
Jenlyn Maconar <6 minutes ago>: no, I expect them to be neutral, same as we were
Serashada Eraindi <6 minutes ago>: You know, i will be fine with that. I wont blame everything on everyone else when it happens.
Jenlyn Maconar <6 minutes ago>: if we all quit, it just leaves sl, and even with nvs, you are screwed
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: because without ec or nvs or sl, you really don't have a chance so long as the light is united
Belmin Tull <7 minutes ago>: reiterating ... justifications are null and void, because people are LEAVING
Serashada Eraindi <7 minutes ago>: Ok so let me put it this way then. You sided with their biggest enemy, other than me, and expected them to walk casually by and help you?
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: you will lose, and then you can be pouty
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: and no one else sides with you
Jenlyn Maconar <7 minutes ago>: and when we leave
Jenlyn Maconar <8 minutes ago>: and it isn't your issue. Its not your clan or your longstanding alliance
Jenlyn Maconar <8 minutes ago>: We broke no treaty. You do not know the mechanics of what happened
Jenlyn Maconar <9 minutes ago>: else we would have implemented a different startegy form teh start
Jenlyn Maconar <9 minutes ago>: Perhaps we should have perceived that SL would behave this way, but I did not believe it
Serashada Eraindi <9 minutes ago>: or just an enemy general.
Jenlyn Maconar <9 minutes ago>: And on top of that, we are hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded
Serashada Eraindi <9 minutes ago>: And Ok say this is real life for a sec and you BREAK a treaty that has stood for a long time to fight with A GENERAL OF THE SHADOWS in the previous year, You thing there would be no repercussions?
Jenlyn Maconar <10 minutes ago>: We get screwed no matter how we try to use the game mechanics
Jenlyn Maconar <10 minutes ago>: They are pointless battles
Jenlyn Maconar <11 minutes ago>: to take a couple of towns that were far away from them and of no concern to them. It is a puffed up provocation
Serashada Eraindi <11 minutes ago>: The problem is that no one wants to try and fight because they see them as "pointless battles." Thats crap. Dont put your pouty crap off on someone else
Jenlyn Maconar <11 minutes ago>: While we have done nothing to oppose them. We took nothing from them, yet they are hurting us because we had hte audacity
Shylah Sedai <11 minutes ago>: It's the fact that PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE OF IT
Serashada Eraindi <12 minutes ago>: The people who quit, either have their reasons that are personal, or are just throwing a tantrum becuase they see this as a pointless age. The SL isnt the problem,
Jenlyn Maconar <12 minutes ago>: SL is helping you because they're mad that we're friends with EC this round.
Shylah Sedai <12 minutes ago>: Because it was evenly matched last round. this age we have people leaving because it's 4 large clans fighting against 2 clans. It's not the world problem
Jenlyn Maconar <12 minutes ago>: EC didn't know that the shadow would be a viable opponent, so they fought for it for the good of the game
Jenlyn Maconar <13 minutes ago>: to let people I thought were my friends run me off by being dicks
Jenlyn Maconar <13 minutes ago>: I'll just retire Jenlyn and join the Shadow until they squeeze the fun out of that too, but I have too much invested in it
Serashada Eraindi <13 minutes ago>: So i love how it is the SL that is the root of all evil. Last year the EC fought for the Shadow, yet i didnt see them being blamed for all the worlds problems.
Jenlyn Maconar <14 minutes ago>: and he's implemented a bunch of my own suggestions, like clan battles, estates, and an ending each round.
Jenlyn Maconar <14 minutes ago>: You know what? Screw that. I too have sat through round after round of this game while it slowly evolved into something fun
Jenlyn Maconar <16 minutes ago>: And I can catch up on my reading and check in periodically to see if they've finally wandered off
Jenlyn Maconar <16 minutes ago>: So hopefully it will eventually be SL against the Shadow, the way they want it, and they can have fun.
Jenlyn Maconar <17 minutes ago>: and the game might have a chance. Otherwise, the light will always be split, and the shadow will always win, and new players will quit because it's pointless
Jenlyn Maconar <18 minutes ago>: But I don't see the point in fighting both the shadow and the light. If I leave, they can go back to fighting the shadow
Jenlyn Maconar <19 minutes ago>: has begun to expand. I guess that kills their fun or something.
Jenlyn Maconar <20 minutes ago>: I'm not sure it's worth the energy. It only feeds their ego to oppose them. It's too bad, because the game is poised to take off, and the player base
Jenlyn Maconar <22 minutes ago>: I see now how they really are. I see why so many players have quit, why clan after clan springs up just to oppose them
Jenlyn Maconar <23 minutes ago>: against hte world. Everybody always hatin on them because they're so good
Jenlyn Maconar <23 minutes ago>: Now they'll fill themselves up with self pity and righteous indignation and pretend they're the underdog
Jenlyn Maconar <24 minutes ago>: they are no strangers to it. They probably like it. It lets them be the big fish in the small pond
Jenlyn Maconar <25 minutes ago>: the glory of beating us with the Shadow to keep them company. They played an empty game before
Jenlyn Maconar <25 minutes ago>: Eventually, they'll be sucking their thumbs in the dark to the sound of crickets, but they can relive
Jenlyn Maconar <29 minutes ago>: They don't care as long as they can throw their raging butthurt tantrum over manufactured provocations
Belmin Tull <35 minutes ago>: RP aside, I think the Mother's point is that whatever justifications made have been voided by the fact that the player base has been adversely affected by decisions of people that should know better.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: Those of us that remain are standing strong, and we have tried to rally and fight back, but ... I fear the weight of numbers determined to see us broken are too great.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: Many of them folded under the weight of such odds
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: n impossible
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: You speak truly, Mother. The Children and the Band had our entire alliance outnumbered from the getgo. It was disheartening for many of the troops when King and Alcar decided to turn a tricky situatio
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: People just want to have fun and you guys have taken that away. That is what I care about and why I'm pissed
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I care about is that people are leaving this game because they know it's pointless to try and stand up to KR or Alcar. That is what I care about
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: And before I get accused of pitching a fit because of CBs, let me clarify that I don't mind that. What I care about is the obvious dislike for the WT and EC that is apparent to anyone with eyes. What
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I hope KR, Alcar, and Sera like playing with each other because that's pretty much all who will be coming back next age.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: Driven from their home here by a pitchfork wielding mob of insurmountable numbers, driven into flight, perhaps never to be seen again
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: They were good people, lost to the intrigues and petty politics over which they had neither interest nor control, and shall be missed.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I misspoke, Belmin. But the shadow should be congratulated on one thing- they have broken the game for people.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: It's also very sad to see how many players have just stopped playing. Seth is gone. Several have deleted because they're tired of the shadows games on the light.
Belmin Tull <A hour ago>: It wasn't the WT I saw suffering out on Almoth Plain, Mother. They were butchering good people in the name of the Shadow.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: I am so looking forward to my vacation and leaving this childishness behind for a bit.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: It is also clear that because the WT chose to not ally with the SL this age they are throwing a fit and deciding to punish the Tower by allowing the shadow to pull their strings.
Shylah Sedai <A hour ago>: What is sad to me is that KR and Alcar have proven that they will do whatever it takes to win, even if it means working with the shadow.
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: no thanks necessary, Aes Sedai, we of the Emerald Collective shall stand against the Shadow in all it's guises.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Thank you for your bravery for the people of Almoth Plain, this is a sad day.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Either way, his fall from the Light, be it by trickery, arrogance, envy, hatred, or even simple misguided foolishness is now public knowledge.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Or at least that is what we had assumed his arrogance had led him to. This latest atrocity though - perhaps you are correct, and he is actually the dupe of another, more sinister power.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: Seats of old
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: I believe that you believe what you are saying, Master Tull, your words ring with truth. King has been playing all sides in recent times, sitting in his stronghold pulling strings like the Amerlin
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: mayhap he's possessed by demons, or under the spell of a black sister, who knows? Could be something less sinister even. Who can know the heart of another truly?
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: i'm no Saint, Aes Sedai, never claimed it to be so. But I saw what I saw, and I fought who I fought as he was handing children to shadowspawn.
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: These are serious accusations, Master Tull ... King Richard has been an upstanding guardian of the Light for many many years. Your reputation is somewhat less glowing.
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: laughing that big laugh of his the whole time
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: I did try, Aes Sedai, and I wounded him good before he made his escape, but the damage was done ... women ... children ... the trollocs already had them when we arrived, with King standing there
Sayana Sedai <2 hours ago>: You did nothing to prevent this evil Master Tull, that you witnessed with your own eye?
Belmin Tull <2 hours ago>: More like an entire town ... saw it with my own eyes, I was there
Rasina seitaarin <2 hours ago>: I heard a whisper on the street that good King Richard delivered a village full of people on Almoth Plain into Trolloc cookpots
Rasina seitaarin <2 hours ago>: Quick, grab a bucket and scrub it off before anyone sees!
Rasina seitaarin <2 hours ago>: Looks like someone scrawled the dragon fang on the SL guild hall overnight ... such vandalism, tsk tsk ... wonder what would have prompted such a thing
the bad guys claiming to be good and the good guys fighting for the Shadow.
